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The Value of the Fall — 2 Comments

  1. I like the way you differentiate the moral lesson being taugh from immutable scripture, taking the valuable elements. This is part of the reason my atheism does not result in an opposition to religion: good lessons and moral arguments are often the result of religious teaching.

    I think looking at religion and religious teaching can provide insight into how humans interact. Like you point out, we can see imperfection as a weakness or failing, as many do, or we can see it as a starting point from which we learn and grow. The latter approach seems both logical and ethical, particularly as it facilitates our survival.

    I think some parralels can be drawn between the conservative, puritanical interpretation of religious teaching and the progressive movement under which we currently labor. Each presents humanity as fallen: one describes it in terms of sin while the other in terms of greed – which they consider sinful. In each case, individuals are not to be trusted with their own decisions primarily because of this human failing.

    In short, I think modern progressives took a page from religious leaders of the past who took advantage of the interpretation of the biblical fall in order to gain a position of control. In fact, it was likely the perspective championed by religious leadership that won the day, enabling the perspective to be leveraged for this purpose. Something similar exists with modern Progressivism.

  2. Thanks for reading and thinking.

    I found myself in a discussion on another site with a fellow who was unhappy that I had removed God from the story. I was told outright that I “cannot secularize the story” as he felt it makes no sense without God. I pointed out that my finding the “acceptance-aspiration” idea could actually encourage non-believers to take a second look at the Bible. He was not having any of that.

    For what it’s worth, I have no problem with the concept of God. It could well be that there indeed is Creator. Part of me finds that idea very appealing. But I must always respect my own understanding and acknowledge what I know and what I don’t know.

    And the last thing I said to the fellow in that conversation was “a finite mind like mine cannot understand the infinite.” There was no reply.

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